Jeff Mudgett Talks about HH Holmes – Part 2 – Paranormal History

Jeff Mudgett Talks about HH Holmes – Part 2 – Paranormal History

August 14, 2019 8 By William Hollis


so did you ever wonder what really
spooks a serial killers descendant hello and welcome to this edition of our
haunted travels I’m your host Marian Donnelly I’m alone
today but that’s all right I’m gonna be talking to you a little bit about Jeff
budgets speech in the Toledo Midwest pear fest conference that was held just
this past weekend in Toledo Ohio this is going to be part two of the series so if
you haven’t checked out the first one make sure that you do that we’ll put a
little link to that about here but before I go ahead and turn it over to
Jeff I’m just gonna remind you that if you are into the paranormal if you’re
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so what are we gonna talk about in this section well you’re gonna hear from Jeff
about what he finds spooky and also what did they find when they dug up his
alleged great-great grandfather’s grave you’ll also hear a little bit about what
he had as answers to some questions from audience members and even a little bit
maybe about the silver screen and future for his book bloodstains without further
ado so scientists do their work they get it
all out they take the back to the you can
amazing lab at work you ever get a chance to go view in the lab they’re well understand over
but down everything go you can have you walk through this Museum of artifacts
from the stings from the pyramids from King Henry the second I mean amazing
stuff that you’re just I was shocked that they had possession of this
apprentice and they had a whole dispute process the judgment permission if
everything was supposed to go back to the lab they were cleaned up I hope a
lot of you have seen a man those things Facebook things the skull the actual
skull after it been cleaned by the the technicians is perfectly preserved and before the he’s halogen for most instructed the
technicians there and the two anthropologist how to take the example and they turn the stove and the with a
dining room there’s a your soul which is horse and they have
to drill to this the keys collagen you can tell except for me everyone in the
room there had already made up they have a customer well they said all summer
long unable to get on attested days three days the scientists see you can’t
tell me they didn’t open with games talent also to get up they had decided
that the reason they weren’t getting a number because they already decided it
was all was that it remains to be brilliant to a point and you can see the
scientists comments testing conclusively links proving that
what was HH Holmes well I had neatly on the phone when I called they depend what’s that I’m just shocked so I called
ABC there was the next day and DNA groups focus was in the or GMOs no well we were watching the
show as hinted that I said I want you to research those that headline it out
there are many faculty well let me see history taught me to do seven the show
members we have a personal profile partial profiles all six of seven
numbers that match up with a DNA comparison so all my friends an expert of diversity
birthday in Frank society so no you can’t have a partial profile on a
paternal line insider matches there it doesn’t matter justify that’s it so what
we’re doing now is we’re going to the judge who will allow the exhumation
maybe final order that the excavation had resulted in the identification of
the remains this agh because of the DND program together to go back to the judge
to force him to reopen case and the state that the DNA didn’t prove a match
with and that gives the DNA isn’t an accident this is the time you’ve got two
Possible’s it’s either agents all tourism or my
family yes that’s most interesting inaudible
but if he top buoyancy prison and the whole jurisprudence system if he escaped
prison execution and if he substituted another in sweats we have so what we did
the other day was I think I’ve we’re gonna kind of hit another issue what
they acted anybody thinking out of the box so you
can be in which will be another part of the new television you can when they
were inspecting the small comparing the deep of the scope to the dental records
the examination was done of all this deep in prison home they found both for
the affiliates from the remains the so-called dental records never mentioned
anything all they did was describe dental gasps impressions made from
samples teeth we don’t know where so obviously his ability to become
entire there’s no they already hold all the
evidence should be very cheap for them to do but they can step forward and
discuss the truth with the American people I’d love to take any questions
you have about anything you’ve got for me I love I’m not taking questions for
the audience anyone that was involved in his arrest
is the incarceration the trial was was most one of those
elaborate trials in the history of American law he fired his lawyers who
defended himself he cross-examined one of his wives who the judge allowed to
testify because he was she wasn’t his legal wife he had too many anyone
involved in that trial that if irritated anyone involved at the prison that
irritating after the so-called marital either suffer death or family misfortune
to be that’s while not direct evidence that was stand over the trial of the
Jenna I read that now the chapter I ratified and the book
about hole is visiting a judge who is me making up what could have that’s fiction
based on the true story and I watch all understand that’s what a lot of them do that these days they do
those absolutely when they tell you they’re written on picture but it’s a
great question but I think one of the most amazing parts of American River was
the portions we did in London and then coming back across and you know that the
crew was already doubtful of my theory that Holmes had written dear boss and
murdered Catherine Eddowes history and I had considerable arguments about they
wanted the show to be about me saving moles till all five I stole that I don’t
have evidence all I had as a Catherine Eddowes number three of the five I even
had Scotland Yard investigators cut off from us to us while we were shooting in
London and tell the man I agreed with my theory
there were to copy accident all and that mystery had a frog who beers been deadly
so what’s it so when amaryllis jumped into the fray
when we first started the show she came up to me we were are out and she came up
to me and said oh my do your theories Venus I’m here to make a TV show set my
career on fire copious and so when she study with us for the ships that were
coming back and forth at the time of the Akron Aeros the Madeira Maserati
she’s better if you remember on the show she found two or three holes aliases
with signatures that are remarkably similar she still wasn’t convinced that
she was evolving when we got back to she went to work with they went down to the archives during
the World’s Fair the top 20 million people visited around the world and over
500 women that missed the cops were just over they could handle
well there were three or four suicides on the lake during the fair when Holmes
was running the murder castle that had total suicides that split neck and
disemboweled son and I didn’t when moles was there at the end of the
show question because one of the inside I was
frustration procedure said that Jeff’s theory was that Holmes had escaped
execution had been another very heinous place and then he’d gone to London to
commit the Jack the Ripper murders on national level it was executed in smoke
that’s good news 96 the Ripper killings I was in the room with and the machine
that I created the name after they used procedure to it got permission to have
dug in the river through the sill through the month and grab those objects
up to see what they actually work we would have taken the the federal water
rights commission the state of Illinois the mayor’s office the Sheriff’s
Department everyone would have had to sign off on it and then set their own
parameters for us to do it I don’t blame history at all for that but what I do
blame them for is telling me that they didn’t they asked timidity information I
was at a cocktail party Chicago about six months out of the shooting in Jesus
I love that show you guys on the Chicago River why did you pick those things up
we asked the mayor he says we would have said yes
he says apparently watching arrows and it’s a type of teaching world’s top it’s
expensive they have budgets and alright folks you’re gonna notice that
there’s gonna be a little bit of a change in the quality of the video
coming up right after this and that’s because well the camera died the battery
power was taken away No was it because the it was an hour I
don’t think so it should be able to last longer than that but we were in a
haunted building in any case we went ahead and started shooting with my cell
phone so it’s a little bit of a switch up so just in case you notice in television which is now making a
series on and they’ve been talking to my agent about us helping them at that
series because they realized there’s not nothing that booked out of White City
two or three seasons they love the part about her holistic her you know there’s gotta be a series Honolulu
we don’t know who the actors but it’s not and then like I said they’ve got out the
wazoo Scorsese talked to the press about
difficult that is they were having what a devil White City it was a movie and I
know you all love so movie needs a pro next time you can’t walk out of the
movie thinking this man is a hero they didn’t they can’t give that the history
and the difficulty they were helpless who’s the problem is all we have is an
evil man who murdered innocent women men who miss struck his contracts well the
people that contacted me like the fact that this story has appropriately is who
finds out his past and then struggles to escape you know that’s the horror stories now
insidious conjuring that was James long movies you know that they of course they
make their didn’t fill their nose they make them for five or six million
dollars for movies coming so they probably loves a lot of all and then all
they do is those new creations of going back to the murder castle
that’s that’s what they’re looking at now for I understand around is produced
with the series there was a they wanted to use the
dental records of inmates then they explained the skeletal difference was
stating that holes must have worn the lives plus the doctor states in his
examination even mentions the size of homes of sexual organs it seems like a
naked man that you notice that this is boobs before you measured how tall I
mean so the array now you may have noticed he looked right
at us I actually was talking to Jeff about this earlier so I’m wondering were
we the two friends credit is sort of maybe the greatest of
the privates ever lived and ascendant laboratories but we’ve got to go in
there knowing that everything you read in that book is all now I exaggerated some portions of the
story of is each other the interesting part the thing that I thought was
fascinating was when he ran a very high grade round of applause when they had
their boy polls was an incredible student but when other boys were out hunting and
fishing he was working with guys named of us we could have 24 when he’s on the
bottom and then before you search cylinder
houses so there I’ve been in his bed interesting stuff house total family now the back booth West to get away from
the statement during the time that the papers were writing and this was the
data this was Satan in clothes and the flesh and the family this was the only
Simpson trial of the time every newspaper was there there the one of the
great actions when the jury came back and I was there finding of guilt they
had holds chained up to lead off the women six women in the audience of the
trial stood up and they were crying as he was being led off and the newspapers
of the time however those crocodile tears from those
women who knew then what he was who he was and how he treated them like them
but they were still he was fighting the charmer he was quite and one of the kind
of minutes as far as dealing with those things I mean the back and forth of his
cross-examination of his one wife was maybe they still teach it in a court of
law school never got lost he never practiced law before we got a few more
minutes and I’ve had a lot of fun got something about working with history I mean all right para peeps there you have it a
little bit of Jeff Mudgett speech from the Midwest para fest conference in
Topeka I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did and until next time thanks for
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