Public Statement About Demonic and Fleshly Manifestations In The Church – PLEASE READ THIS TEXT…
Hey everyone out there!
I want to talk a little about manifestations and wrong spirits that are creeping
into the church. This video is going to shock some of you,
but I’ve been talking with people I work with, here in The Last Reformation
and people who are traveling and doing meetings all over, and we feel
it’s time to make a video about this. It’s time to be very, very clear when it comes
to these manifestations and what is happening in the church. What we see in the church today,
we see some manifestations where people are… how do I explain it?
It comes with tics and moving funny, and have a lot of body movements,
when they are in church and when they are worshiping God and
the presence of the Holy Spirit is there. I just want to say that I, myself,
I was in a church many, many years ago where I came to faith and I was at meetings
where there was a lot of those manifestations. There were people who were falling down
and rolling around on the floor. And I believed, at that time, it was all
the work of the Holy Spirit. And I was helping as an usher in the church
many, many years ago. And I was part of carrying people out
to the car who were ‘drunk’ in the Holy Spirit. But I saw many of them came back
the week after and they were not changed. Nothing have happened. Later God took me on a journey and
He started revealing a lot of things to me, and showed me that much of what we
saw in the church, some of it was flesh, it was fleshly manifestations,
it was emotions, and therefore there was not that
transformation, and other of it were demonic manifestations. And therefore we also did not see that
transformation we wanted to. You have to ask yourself, if those people
who experienced that, are really in the presence of God
as much as they say they are, why are they still struggling with sin,
many of them, why they are not really transformed? And the reason is that much of those
manifestations you see in the church today is really not the work of the Holy Spirit. What we see is that wrong spirits
crept into the church. And I’ve been sharing this with some of
our friends and people we work with, and it became a big burden for us,
a big problem, and we see people come to our meetings,
and as soon as you start to pray for them, they start to manifest and come with those
tics, or what you call it, and shake, and move in a funny way. Most of them really, truly believe that
that is the Holy Spirit. But very often it’s not. At one time, many years ago,
I have also believed it was the Holy Spirit. I was at meetings where people were
falling down and they were laying and shaking of the floor. And what everyone
did at that time, they were standing and saying: More Lord! More Lord!
More Lord! Come! More Lord! Because we believed at that time that
that was the Holy Spirit working in them and that was why they got that body moves
and they had tics like this. And we thought that was a sign
of the Holy Spirit. Today, I would not stand and say:
‘More Lord, more Lord’, when that happens. Today I would sit down and say:
Come out in the name of Jesus! Because what you truly see is that
it is the Holy Spirit that’s working and the presence of the Holy Spirit is there,
but then there’s the wrong spirit, there’s the demonic spirit, and those
demonic spirit starts to react and this is what you see. But, what is so sad with the church today
many places, that we have totally forgotten deliverance. We have forgotten all about
discerning spirits, discerning what is from God and
what is not from God, and then to cast out demons. And today, in the church, we have ministries,
we have movements, we have things where there is a lot of those manifestations,
but you never see deliverance. You never see them sit down and
actually cast out those demons. Because they believe that every manifestation
somehow is the manifestation of God, is the Holy Spirit. And we have seen that this is a growing
problem all over the world, and also, especially in America, where
I am now, where we have people come in to our meetings and they start
to manifest, and we need to set them free. And many have experienced freedom.
We have just shared a video, you can see it online, with a woman who
is telling her testimony, how she experienced a freedom. And I have
several of those videos where people have had manifestations and they have
thought it was the Holy Spirit, and then they come to our meeting
and experience the freedom and the peace that there is in Christ. When I ask those people where they got
those things, many of them said that they got it in the church.
It was in the church they got it. And it’s really a problem. It’s a problem that we see
this have been spread to the church. I had a meeting some years ago
in South Africa, in Capetown, and there was a woman, she came up
in our meeting, and at our meeting we let everyone pray for each other
because we think it’s very important to train and disciple believers.
But one girl came to me and as soon as I started to talk with her
and pray for her, she started to move like this and start to come with those
movements. And I stopped her. I said: Stop, stop, stop. Do you know this is not Holy Spirit? And I said that to her. And often people
react very strong… some people react very strong and say:
What do you mean? Of course it’s the Holy Spirit. But this girl didn’t say that. She said:
Yes, I know it. Can you stop it? And I was surprised for her answer. And I was like: You know it?
Yes, can you please help me? Then I asked her:
How long time have you had it? And then she said: Ten minutes. And I said: What? And she said: Yeah, just before,
at your meeting here, somebody came and laid hands on me
and did something and I started to come with those tics.
Can you set me free? And there I prayed for her and she
experienced freedom. But of course I was really shocked because
she got that wrong spirit at our meeting, at a meeting where we let everyone
pray for each other. And it was really a big burden because
how do we hinder this? We don’t want to create a place where we
have to screen everyone and check everyone and go through their lives before
we allow them to pray for people, because then we lose the momentum
of discipleship. But at the same time we need to address
this issue because there is an issue, there are people in churches who are
spreading those wrong spirits. How do you know it’s not from God? One of the things you know it that fruit
of the Spirit is the self-control. Satan takes over and Satan is against
the self-control and people cannot control manifestations, cannot control
what is happening. Then it’s very often a very clear sign
that this is demonic. Because you cannot control it. It’s something that happens. And we had
hundreds of people now who experienced freedom and who have
come to us and said that it started good but in the end they couldn’t
be at worship, they couldn’t be at meetings because every time people talk with them
and wanted to pray for them, they came with that in their body.
And that is very, very clear sign that this is not from God,
this is not the Holy Spirit. Because when the Spirit is there,
there is freedom. And fruit of the Spirit is self-control. So, do you experience your body reacts
in a way, and something is happening with you when you are worshiping
and seeking God, or at meetings, and you cannot control it?
It’s not from God. When I would then say: If you can control it,
why do you do it? And I see there is also in the church that
people just try to pretend. I don’t say everything is demonic,
but I’ve talked with many, many people last years who’ve been in settings where
some people have been manifesting and they thought that for me to be holy
like them, “holy”, and acceptable, and close to God like it looked like they are,
I need to manifest, I need to do the same thing. And suddenly they are standing and moving
in a way, and it’s almost like you need to do it to be
a part of the inner core. You don’t need to have those manifestations.
You can just be in the presence of God and experience the peace in your heart. And you have self-control. And that is very, very important.
That is the fruit of it. What we see in the revival history,
if you study revival history, is that every time that have been
a real strong move of God, the Holy Spirit have come, when the Holy Spirit is present
there will always be demonic manifestations. Why? Because people need deliverance. But the problem was, we saw a move of God,
it was pure, it was holy, there was repentance, there was holiness,
there was good fruit, then demonic manifestations happen
in people. But instead of sitting down with those people
and saying: Come out in the name of Jesus, and set them free from that wrong spirit, people thought that was a fruit
of the Holy Spirit. And now they are standing and saying:
More Lord, more Lord, more Lord! And believe that those manifestations
are from God. I am worried. I am worried for America.
I am worried for the world today. I am worried for those things I see
that those spirits are creeping in, those manifestations are coming
into the body of Christ, and people cannot discern
that this is demonic and some of those ministries and
some of those places where you see the lot of it – ask yourself: If they have some much of the Holy Spirit,
why don’t they never cast out demons? Some of those people who bring this
never cast out demons. But when people come to God,
many people need deliverance and we know that is biblical –
to cast out demons. This issue is something we have addressed
with the leader team in the Last Reformation, and those people we have worked with.
And we feel it’s time to really go public and say that we don’t want anything
to do with it. Because there is also people who
somehow follow the Last Reformation and love what we are teaching,
when we talk about the discipleship, and the gospel, and healing the sick,
and some of that, but they still try to bring this in.
And we just don’t want it. We don’t believe in it.
We don’t see it as the work of the Holy Spirit. And it’s something we often address
in our schools, because people come to our schools
and as soon as they start to hear our teaching about discerning spirits and wrong spirits
in the church, we also have a video about that – their eyes open and now
they see how demonic it is, and see the fruit of this, that those
manifestations, that have taken the focus away from Christ
and what He have done and the discipleship, and how it’s very
often demonic or it’s fleshly manifestations. And people have experienced freedom.
But now we feel it’s time to go broader and go out there and say:
Guys, we don’t want it. We have kickstart weekends,
we have meetings all over, if you want to come,
we are going to address it in our meetings, and we just need to say it plainly, as it is,
if you come to our meetings where we let everyone pray for everyone,
if you walk around with this, with those tics and body manifestations,
and really believe all of this is the Holy Spirit, sorry, yeah, you are
allowed to come experience freedom, but don’t come and lay hands on people.
Don’t come at our meetings and go around and lay hands on people
and spread this, because we don’t want it. And I know it’s strong, but I will end
this video with just linking to three different videos where there is
more teaching about it, where you can hear people who have been
in it and tell their testimonies how they have experienced the freedom.
But I just want to end up and say: We are called to test everything
and hold on to what is good. And those manifestations, those things,
we have been testing it in our leadership, people we work with,
we have now seen so many people experiencing freedom from it
and it’s time to go up and be more and more clear and say:
It’s not from the Holy Spirit, it’s not from God. By saying this, we are not saying that
some of those places and movements and churches and people who are bringing
this, that everything they are doing is demonic. We are not saying that.
We are not saying that they don’t focus on Jesus, they don’t focus on Christ,
they don’t focus on God, and we are not saying that everyone
who have that is totally deceived and totally wrong in every area in life.
We are not saying that. But we are saying that this thing
with manifestations – that is demonic. That is soulish or demonic
and it’s time we, in the body of Christ, we start to address it as it is.
And it’s time that we start to learn to discern spirits and cast out demons.
We need to bring deliverance back to the church and we need to
say it as it is: That is not from the Holy Spirit.
That is not self-control. That is not a good fruit.
And we need to do something about it. If you want more,
look at videos I’ve done here. I hope this video can help you.
See that videos we are linking to. This video it’s not only my own video.
This is from behalf of the Last Reformation and people I work with, who have seen
this video, and it’s something we have talked about and something
we now want to address. Sorry, don’t bring it in the Last Reformation. If you don’t agree and if you are, somehow,
part of the network and say: I believe it’s from the Holy Spirit,
I would say: Repent or maybe leave. Sorry, to be so correct.
But we don’t want it inhere. Then it’s not the Last Reformation
you should work with, because God have been really after us
and we need to address it, we need to make clear that we want
this to be holy, we want this to be what God wants it to be. You can comment this video
if you have questions. I don’t want to go in and discuss names
and churches and where it came from. I just want to address the case, and what
we have been talking about, those manifestations, drunk in the Spirit
and the lack of the self-control. Okay, I hope this video will help you.
God bless you! I will address more of this later.
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